Discussion

 

作者: N. T. M. Wilsmore,  

 

期刊: Transactions of the Faraday Society  (RSC Available online 1907)
卷期: Volume 2, issue February  

页码: 211-212

 

ISSN:0014-7672

 

年代: 1907

 

DOI:10.1039/TF9070200211

 

出版商: RSC

 

数据来源: RSC

 

摘要:

ON THE ELECTROCHEMISTRY OF LEAD 211 DISC USSI OhT. (Tuesday, December, 11, 1906, DR. T. M. LOWRY i n the Chair.) Mr. N. T. M. Wilsmore said that the author’s work was of considerable interest in connection with the theory of the lead accumulator. Dolezalek‘s theoretical investigations were based in great part on the hypothesis of Liebenow, that lead dioxide gave off bi-valent negative PbOi‘ ions-a some- what unlikely reaction. I t had been shown, however, by Abel that Dolezalek’s results could be reached equally well from Le Blanc’s assumption of the formation of quadrivalent positive Pb * * * ions ; hence the author’s measure- ments niight have further theoretical applications. Mr. H. L. Joly remarked that Prof. J. N. Collie had found a long time ago that oxygen behaved as a tetravalent element in some compounds.He hoped that somebody mathematically inclined would work out the accumulator problem afresh on Dr. Cumming’s new assumption. The Chairman said it would have been a great advantage if the solubility of lead peroxide in sulphuric acid had been determined by experiment rather than by calculation ; such an experiment might easily have been made, whilst the calculation could only lead to very uncertain results. Dr. A. C. Cumming (communicated) : The theory for the accumulator on the assumption of tetrad lead has been worked out mathematically by Abel (Zeit.fiir EZectroch. 7, p. 731). Dr. Lowry is of opinion that the estimation of the solubility of PbOe in sulphuric acid is an easy matter. Obviously no precipitation method could be used, so that one must evaporate the solution and weigh the lead sulphate. The evaporation of half a litre of 7 or 8 N sulphuric acid to obtain a few milligrams of lead sulphate is a process which requires much time and attention. I had hoped to have estimated this solubility experimentally, but a few experiments convinced me that it would require more time than I could give.I t seemed better, there- fore, to give a calculated value, which did not profess to be more than an approximation, than to do a hurried experiment. Since the reading of this paper, a research by Dolezalek and Finckh (Zed anorg. Ch. 51, 1906, p. 3201, has appeared on the same subject. Their investigation was carried out with I cannot agree with him at all.212 ON THE ELECTROCHEMISTRY OF LEAD solutions in sulphuric acid, and it may be meiitioiied that they regard the estimation of PbO, in sulphuric acid of less than z o N as impracticable. I t may be of some interest to compare their results with my calculation. The calculation led to the value -3 niilligrm. molecules per litre in 7.5 N sulphuric acid. The most dilute solution in which they were able to analytically estimate the PbO, was 20.7 N, which dissolved 1.8 millimols per litre, so that the value obtained by calculation was of the right order of magnitude, and nothing more was claimed for it. The experiments with sulphuric acid were, however, only an incidental part of the research, since I was mainly concerned with the determination of the value for Pb * - - * -> Pb * *. The mean value found was 1-83 volt, and it is satisfactory to notice that, working with the sulphate, Dolezalek and Finckh obtained values varying between 1.8j and 1-90 volt.

 

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